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Driving Position Memory System (Dpms): Diagnosis Honda Pilot II

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Power Seat Control Unit Input Test/Replacement

Note. SRS components are located in this area. Review the SRS component locations, and precautions and procedures before doing repairs or servicing Before testing, troubleshoot the multiplex integrated control unit first, using B-CAN System Diagnosis Test Mode A (see TROUBLESHOOTING - B-CAN SYSTEM DIAGNOSIS TEST MODE A ).

Scheme 11

Scheme 11: Power Seat Control Unit Input Test/Replacement
  1. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
  2. Remove the driver's seat (see «FRONT SEAT REMOVAL/INSTALLATION»(ref-333588-S11463606232009072100000) ). NOTE: Be careful not to scratch the interior trim.
  3. Disconnect the 40P connector (A) and 18P connector (B) from the power seat control unit (C).
  4. Inspect the connector and socket terminals to be sure they are all making good contact. If the terminals are bent, loose or corroded, repair them as necessary and recheck the system. If the terminals look OK, go to step 5 .
  5. With the connectors still disconnected, do these input tests at the following connectors. If any test indicates a problem, find and correct the cause, then recheck the system. If all the input tests prove OK, go to step 6 . WIRE CONDITION TABLE Cavity Wire Test condition Test: Desired result Possible cause if desired result is not obtained B38 GRY Disconnect the power mirror control unit 24P connector Check for continuity between terminal B38 and power mirror control unit 24P connector terminal No. 13: There should be continuity. An open or high resistance in the wire A7 . A17 RED . GRN Under all conditions Connect terminals A1 and A7, terminals A4 and A17: The seat should slide backward. Faulty slide motor An open or high resistance in the wire Connect terminals A1 and A17, terminals A4 and A7: The seat should slide forward. A9 . A11 WHT . GRN Under all conditions Connect terminals A1 and A9, terminals A4 and A11: The seat should recline forward. Faulty recline motor An open or high resistance in the wire Connect terminals A1 and A11, terminals A4 and A9: The seat should recline backward. A6 . A16 PUR . BLU Under all conditions Connect terminals A1 and A6, terminals A4 and A16: The front of seat should move down. Faulty front up-down motor An open or high resistance in the wire Connect terminals A1 and A16, terminals A4 and A6: The front of seat should move up. A2 . A10 YEL . PNK Under all conditions Connect terminals A1 and A2, terminals A4 and A10: The rear of seat should move up. Faulty rear up-down motor An open or high resistance in the wire Connect terminals A1 and A10, terminals A4 and A2: The rear of seat should move down.
  6. Reconnect the connectors to the power seat control unit, and do these input tests.
  1. If any test indicates a problem, find and correct the cause, then recheck the system.
  2. If ail the input tests prove OK, the control unit must be faulty; replace it.
CavityWireTest conditionTest: Desired resultPossible cause if desired result is not obtained
A4BLKIn all ignition switch positionsMeasure the voltage to ground: There should be less than 0.2 V.Poor ground (G503) An open or high resistance in the wire
A18
B9
A1BLUUnder all conditionsMeasure the voltage to ground: There should be battery voltage.Blown No. 9 (20 A) fuse in the auxiliary under-hood fuse/relay box An open or high resistance in the wire
A8ORNUnder all conditionsMeasure the voltage to ground: There should be battery voltage.Blown No. 10 (20 A) fuse in the auxiliary under-hood fuse/relay box An open or high resistance in the wire
B34YELIgnition switch ON (II)Measure the voltage to ground: There should be battery voltage.Blown No. 10 (7.5 A) fuse in the under-dash fuse/relay box An open or high resistance in the wire
B36WHTUnder all conditionsMeasure the voltage to ground: There should be battery voltage.Blown No. 23 (10 A) fuse in the under-hood fuse/relay box Faulty under-dash fuse/relay box An open or high resistance in the wire
B1 . B7GRN . LT GRNSlide switch in FORWARD positionMeasure the voltage between the terminals: There should be less than 0.2 V.Faulty driver's power seat adjustment switch An open or high resistance in the wire
B1 . B24GRN . PURSlide switch in BACKWARD positionMeasure the voltage between the terminals: There should be less than 0.2 V.Faulty driver's power seat adjustment switch An open or high resistance in the wire
B1 . B6GRN . LT BLURecline switch in FORWARD positionMeasure the voltage between the terminals: There should be less than 0.2 V.Faulty driver's power seat adjustment switch An open or high resistance in the wire
B1 . B23GRN . WHTRecline switch in BACKWARD positionMeasure the voltage between the terminals: There should be less than 0.2 V.Faulty driver's power seat adjustment switch An open or high resistance in the wire
B1 . B5GRN . BLUFront up-down switch in UP positionMeasure the voltage between the terminals: There should be less than 0.2 V.Faulty driver's power seat adjustment switch An open or high resistance in the wire
B1 . B4GRN . REDFront up-down switch in DOWN positionMeasure the voltage between the terminals: There should be less than 0.2 V.Faulty driver's power seat adjustment switch An open or high resistance in the wire
B1 . B22GRN . PNKRear up-down switch in UP positionMeasure the voltage between the terminals: There should be less than 0.2 V.Faulty driver's power seat adjustment switch An open or high resistance in the wire
B1 . B3GRN . GRYRear up-down switch in DOWN positionMeasure the voltage between the terminals: There should be less than 0.2 V.Faulty driver's power seat adjustment switch An open or high resistance in the wire
B15YELRun the power seat motorsMeasure the voltage between to ground: There should be about 10 V or more.Faulty position sensor A short to ground in the wire Faulty power seat control unit
B10 . B29PNK . ORNRun the recline motorMeasure the voltage between terminals B10 and B29: There should be about 2.5 V average.Faulty recline position sensor An open or high resistance in the wire A short to ground in the wire Faulty power seat control unit
B11 . B29GRY . ORNRun the slide motorMeasure the voltage between terminals B11 and B29: There should be about 2.5 V average.Faulty slide position sensor An open or high resistance in the wire A short to ground in the wire Faulty power seat control unit
B12 . B29WHT . ORNRun the front up-down motorMeasure the voltage between terminals B12 and B29: There should be about 2.5 V average.Faulty front up-down position sensor An open or high resistance in the wire A short to ground in the wire Faulty power seat control unit
B13 . B29BLU . ORNRun the rear up-down motorMeasure the voltage between terminals B13 and B29: There should be about 2.5 V average.Faulty rear up-down position sensor An open or high resistance in the wire A short to ground in the wire Faulty power seat control unit
B26PNKTransmission range switch in P positionMeasure the voltage to ground: There should be less than 0.2 V.Poor ground (G101) or an open in the ground wire Faulty or improperly adjusted transmission range switch An open or high resistance in the wire
Transmission range switch in any other position than PMeasure the voltage to ground: There should be more than 5 V.Faulty transmission range switch A short to ground in the wire Faulty power seat control unit

WIRE CONDITION TABLE

Scheme 12

Scheme 12: Power Mirror Control Unit Input Test/Replacement
  1. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
  2. Remove the driver's door panel (see «FRONT DOOR PANEL REMOVAL/INSTALLATION»(ref-333581-S09178406072009072100000) ).
  3. Disconnect the 24P connector (A) from the power mirror control unit (B).
  4. Inspect the connector and socket terminals to be sure they are all making good contact. If the terminals are bent, loose or corroded, repair them as necessary, and recheck the system. If the terminals look OK, go to step 5 .
  5. With the connector still disconnected, do these input tests at the following connector. If any test indicates a problem, find and correct the cause, then recheck the system. If all the input tests prove OK, go to step 6 . WIRE CONDITION TABLE Cavity Wire Test condition Test: Desired result Possible cause if desired result is not obtained 13 GRY Disconnect power seat control unit B (40P) connector Check for continuity between terminal No. 13 and power seat control unit B (40P) connector terminal No. 38: There should be continuity. An open or high resistance in the UART wire 14 . 15 GRN . BRN Under all conditions Connect terminals No. 14 and No. 24, and terminals No. 15 and No. 22: The left mirror should move up. Faulty left mirror actuator An open or high resistance in the wire Connect terminals No. 15 and No. 24, and terminals No. 14 and No. 22: The left mirror should move down. 15 . 16 BRN . WHT Under all conditions Connect terminals No. 15 and No. 24, and terminals No. 16 and No. 22: The left mirror should swing left. Faulty left mirror actuator An open or high resistance in the wire Connect terminals No. 16 and No. 24, and terminals No. 15 and No. 22: The left mirror should swing right. 3 . 17 LT BLU . ORN Under all conditions Connect terminals No. 3 and No. 24, and terminals No. 17 and No. 22: The right mirror should move up. Faulty right mirror actuator An open or high resistance in the wire Connect terminals No. 17 and No. 24, and terminals No. 3 and No. 22: The right mirror should move down. 17 . 18 ORN . GRY Under all conditions Connect terminals No. 17 and No. 24, and terminals No. 18 and No. 22: The right mirror should swing right. Faulty right mirror actuator An open or high resistance in the wire Connect terminals No. 18 and No. 24, and terminals No. 17 and No. 22: The right mirror should swing left.
  6. Reconnect the connector to the power mirror control unit, and do these input tests at the following connector.
  1. If any test indicates a problem, find and correct the cause, then recheck the system.
  2. If all the input tests prove OK, the control unit must be faulty; replace it.
CavityWireTest conditionTest: Desired resultPossible cause if desired result is not obtained
22BLKIn all ignition switch positionsMeasure the voltage to ground: There should be less than 0.2 V.Poor ground (G4011) An open or high resistance in the wire
11YELIgnition switch ON (II)Measure the voltage to ground: There should be battery voltage.Blown No. 10 (7.5 A) fuse in the under-dash fuse/relay box Faulty under-dash fuse/relay box An open or high resistance in the wire
24WHTUnder all conditionsMeasure the voltage to ground: There should be battery voltage.Blown No. 23 (10 A) fuse in the under-hood fuse/relay box Faulty under-dash fuse/relay box An open or high resistance in the wire
1 . 2RED . PURIgnition switch ON (II), and mirror select switch in LEFT, then mirror down switch pressedMeasure the voltage to ground: There should be battery voltage.Blown No. 36 (10 A) fuse in the under-dash fuse/relay box Faulty power mirror switch An open or high resistance in the wire
8 . 9LT GRN . PNKIgnition switch ON (II), and mirror select switch in RIGHT, then mirror down switch pressedMeasure the voltage to ground: There should be battery voltage.Blown No. 36 (10 A) fuse in the under-dash fuse/relay box Faulty power mirror switch An open or high resistance in the wire
10GRNIgnition switch ON (II), and mirror select switch in LEFT or RIGHT, then mirror up switch pressedMeasure the voltage to ground: There should be battery voltage.Blown No. 36 (10 A) fuse in the under-dash fuse/relay box Faulty power mirror switch An open or high resistance in the wire
4 . 6PNK . LT GRNSwing the left mirror from full left to full rightMeasure the voltage between terminals No. 4 and No. 6: There should be about 0.5 V to 4.5 V (average about 2.5V when the mirror moves).Faulty left mirror position sensor An open or high resistance in the wire A short to ground in the wire
5 . 6LT BLU . LT GRNMove the left mirror from full up to full downMeasure the voltage between terminals No. 5 and No. 6: There should be about 0.5 V to 4.5 V (average about 2.5V when the mirror moves).Faulty left mirror position sensor An open or high resistance in the wire A short to ground in the wire
20 . 6BRN . LT GRNSwing the right mirror from full left to full rightMeasure the voltage between terminals No. 20 and No. 6: There should be about 0.5 V to 4.5 V (average about 2.5V when the mirror moves).Faulty right mirror position sensor An open or high resistance in the wire A short to ground in the wire
19 . 6GRN . LT GRNMove the right mirror from full up to full downMeasure the voltage between terminals No. 19 and No. 6: There should be about 0.5 V to 4.5 V (average about 2.5V when the mirror moves).Faulty right mirror position sensor An open or high resistance in the wire A short to ground in the wire

WIRE CONDITION TABLE

Power Window Master Switch Input Test

Note. Before testing, troubleshoot the multiplex integrated control unit first, using B-CAN System Diagnosis Test Mode A (see TROUBLESHOOTING - B-CAN SYSTEM DIAGNOSIS TEST MODE A ).

Scheme 13

Scheme 13: Power Window Master Switch Input Test
  1. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
  2. Remove the power window master switch (see «POWER WINDOW MASTER SWITCH REPLACEMENT»(ref-333619-S07541619552009072100000) ).
  3. Disconnect the 37P connector (A) from the power window master switch (B).
  4. Inspect the connector and socket terminals to be sure they are all making good contact. If the terminals are bent, loose or corroded, repair them as necessary and recheck the system. If the terminals look OK, go to step 5 .
  5. With the connector still disconnected, do these input tests at the following connector. If any test indicates a problem, find and correct the cause, then recheck the system. If all the input tests prove OK, go to step 6 . WIRE CONDITION TABLE Cavity Wire Test condition Test: Desired result Possible cause if desired result is not obtained 4 GRN Under all conditions Connect terminals No. 4 and No. 13: The driving position memory switch indicator 2 should come on. Poor ground (G401) Faulty driving position memory switch An open or high resistance in the wire 6 YEL Under all conditions Connect terminals No. 6 and No. 13: The driving position memory switch indicator 1 should come on. Poor ground (G401) or open in the ground wire Faulty driving position memory switch An open or high resistance in the wire 26 LT BLU Under all conditions Connect terminals No. 26 and No. 13: The driving position memory switch lights should come on. Poor ground (G401) or open in the ground wire Faulty driving position memory switch An open or high resistance in the wire
  6. Reconnect the connector to the power window master switch, and do these input tests.
  1. If any test indicates a problem, find and correct the cause, then recheck the system.
  2. If all the input tests prove OK, the door multiplex control unit must be faulty; replace the power window master switch (see «POWER WINDOW MASTER SWITCH REPLACEMENT»(ref-333619-S07541619552009072100000) ).

Note. After replacing the power window master switch, reset the power window control unit.

CavityWireTest conditionTest: Desired resultPossible cause if desired result is not obtained
32BLKIn all ignition switch positionsMeasure the voltage to ground: There should be less than 0.2 V.Poor ground (G401) An open or high resistance in the wire
13WHTUnder all conditionsMeasure the voltage to ground: There should be battery voltage.Blown No. 23 (10 A) fuse in the under-hood fuse/relay box Faulty under-dash fuse/relay box An open or high resistance in the wire
16LT GRNDriver position 2 button pressedMeasure the voltage to ground: There should be less than 0.2 V.Poor ground (G401) Faulty driving position memory switch An open or high resistance in the wire
Driver position 2 button releasedMeasure the voltage to ground: There should be about 5 V.Faulty driving position memory switch A short to ground in the wire
17PURDriver position 1 button pressedMeasure the voltage to ground: There should be less than 0.2 V.Poor ground (G401) Faulty driving position memory switch An open or high resistance in the wire
Driver position 1 button releasedMeasure the voltage to ground: There should be about 5 V.Faulty driving position memory switch A short to ground in the wire
19ORNSeat SET button pressedMeasure the voltage to ground: There should be less than 0.2 V.Poor ground (G401) Faulty driving position memory switch An open or high resistance in the wire
Seat SET button releasedMeasure the voltage to ground: There should be about 5 V.Faulty driving position memory switch A short to ground in the wire

WIRE CONDITION TABLE

Scheme 14

Scheme 14: Driving Position Memory Switch Test/Replacement

Scheme 15

Scheme 15
  1. Remove the driver's door panel (see «FRONT DOOR PANEL REMOVAL/INSTALLATION»(ref-333581-S09178406072009072100000) ).
  2. Disconnect the 10P connector (A) from the driving position memory switch (B).
  3. Remove the two screws, then remove the switch from the door panel.
  4. Check for continuity between the terminals in each switch position according to the table below.
  5. If the continuity is not as specified, replace the switch.

Driver's Power Seat Motor Test

Note. SRS components are located in the area. Review the SRS component locations (see COMPONENT LOCATION INDEX ), and precautions and procedures (see PRECAUTIONS AND PROCEDURES before doing repairs or servicing.

Scheme 16

Scheme 16: Driver's Power Seat Motor Test

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  1. Remove the driver's seat (see «FRONT SEAT REMOVAL/INSTALLATION»(ref-333588-S11463606232009072100000) ).
  2. Disconnect the 6P and 8P connectors from each power seat motor.
  3. Test each motor by connecting power and ground according to the tables below. When the motor stops running, disconnect battery power immediately.
  4. If the motor does not run or fails to run smoothly, replace the appropriate motor.
  1. Slide motor (see «FRONT SEAT SLIDE MOTOR REPLACEMENT»(ref-333588-S32021841982009072100000) )
  2. Front up-down motor (see «FRONT SEAT RECLINE MOTOR REPLACEMENT»(ref-333588-S12022139572009072100000) )
  3. Rear up-down motor (see «FRONT SEAT SLIDE MOTOR REPLACEMENT»(ref-333588-S32021841982009072100000) )
  4. Recline motor (see «FRONT SEAT RECLINE MOTOR REPLACEMENT»(ref-333588-S12022139572009072100000) )

Note. The front and rear up-down motors are part of the seat frame (see FRONT SEAT FRAME REPLACEMENT ).