Noise
Torque converter whine is usually noticed when the vehicle is stopped and the transaxle is in "Drive" or "Reverse". The noise will increase when engine RPM is increased. The noise will stop when the vehicle is moving or when the torque converter clutch is applied because both halves of the converter are turning at the same speed.
Perform a stall test to make sure the noise is actually coming from the converter
- Place foot on brake.
- Put gear selector in "Drive".
- Depress accelerator to approximately 1,200 RPM for no more than six seconds.
| CAUTION | If the accelerator is depressed for more than six seconds, damage to the transaxle may occur. |
A torque converter noise will increase under this load.
| CAUTION | This noise should not be confused with pump whine noise which is usually noticeable in P (Park), N (Neutral) and all other gear ranges. Pump whine will vary with pressure ranges. |
The torque converter should be replaced under any of the following conditions
- External leaks in the hub weld area.
- Converter hub is scored or damaged.
- Converter pilot is broken, damaged or fits poorly into crankshaft.
- Steel particles are found after flushing the cooler and cooler lines.
- Pump is damaged or steel particles are found in the converter.
- Vehicle has TCC shudder and/or no TCC apply. Replace only after all hydraulic and electrical diagnoses have been made. (Lock up clutch material may be glazed.)
- Converter has an imbalance which cannot be corrected.
- Converter is contaminated with engine coolant containing antifreeze.
- Internal failure of stator roller clutch.
- Excess end play.
- Heavy clutch debris due to overheating (blue converter).
- Steel particles or clutch lining material found in fluid filter or on magnet when no internal parts in unit are worn or damaged (indicates that lining material came from converter).
The torque converter should not be replace if
- The oil has an odor, is discolored, and there is no evidence of metal or clutch facing particles.
- The threads in one or more of the converter bolt holes are damaged. correct with thread insert.
- Transaxle failure did not display evidence of damage or worn internal parts, steel particles or clutch plate lining material in unit and inside the fluid filter.
- Vehicle has been exposed to high mileage (only). The exception may be where the Lock up clutch damper plate lining has seen excess wear by vehicles operated in heavy and/or constant traffic, such as taxi, delivery or police use.
Lock-Up Clutch Shudder Diagnosis
The key to diagnosing lock-up clutch (TCC) shudder is to note when it happens and under what conditions.
TCC shudder should only occur during the APPLY and/or RELEASE of the lock up clutch.
| Symptom | Possible Cause | Action |
|---|---|---|
| Noise | TFT Level Too Low | When the TFT level is too low, the gear wheels from the transaxle oil pump might generate noise. Check the TFT level as described in the repair instruction and fill to the proper level. |
| Monolith in Catalytic Converter Has Broken | Check according to the exhaust gas diagnostic procedure or by shaking the catalytic converter casing. Replace catalytic converter if necessary. | |
| Noise from Auxiliaries (e.g. exhaust system, alternator, drive shafts) | Check these components; if necessary, eliminate the faults as described in the repair instruction. | |
| Noise from Tires or Wheel Bearings | Eliminate fault if necessary. | |
| Noise from Planetary Gears | Whistling noise on traction and overrun (in first gear only) caused by high rotating speeds (functionally unavoidable). | |
| Cumulative Tooth Backlash in the Complete Drive Line | Production status. Customer must be convinced. | |
| Jerky Noise of the Parking Lock (e.g. when the car is standing on a gradient) | Load-reversal reaction. Apply the handbrake before selection the parking Lock (position P). | |
| The Engine's Torsional Vibrations are Being Transmitted to the Drive Shafts | At low speeds in fourth gear, vibration can arise (driving at too low an engine speed). Noise is functionally unavoidable; due to tolerances. Convince the customer. | |
| Torque Reaction Strut Loose | Check mounting and repair if necessary. |
DIAGNOSIS CHART - NOISE