Power Windows: Diagnosis Honda Odyssey III

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Master Switch Input Test

Note. Make sure the ignition switch is OFF before disconnecting the connectors.

Scheme 36

1. Before testing the power windows, troubleshoot the multiplex integrated control system using B-CAN System Diagnosis Test Mode A (see «TROUBLESHOOTING - B-CAN SYSTEM DIAGNOSIS TEST MODE A»(ref-220996-S18207449512006022200000) ).
2. Turn the ignition switch OFF.
3. Remove the power window master switch (see «MASTER SWITCH REPLACEMENT»(ref-221004-S28848878652006022200000) ).
4. Disconnect the 23P connector (A) and 13P connector (B) from the power window master switch (C).
5. Inspect the connector and socket terminals to be sure they are all making good contact. If the terminals are bent, loose or corroded, repair them as necessary, and recheck the system. If the terminals look OK, go to step 6.
6. Reconnect the connector to the power window master switch, turn the ignition switch ON (II) and make these input tests at the connector. If any test indicates a problem, find and correct the cause, then recheck the system. If all the input tests prove OK, go to step 7. MASTER SWITCH INPUT TEST DESCRIPTION (1 OF 2) Cavity Wire Test condition Test: Desired result Possible cause if result is not obtained 1.2 BLK Under all conditions Check for voltage to ground: There should be less than 1 V. Poor ground (G601) An open in the wire 3 WHT/GRN Ignition switch ON (II) Check for voltage to ground: There should be less than 1 V. Blown No. 23 (P/W) (50 A) fuse in the under-hood fuse/relay box Faulty power window relay Faulty driver's under-dash fuse/relay box An open in the wire 10 GRN/WHT Under all conditions Check for voltage to ground: There should be battery voltage. Blown No. 27 (20 A) fuse in the driver's under-dash fuse/relay box Faulty driver's under-dash fuse/relay box An open in the wire 15 WHT/RED Under all conditions Check for voltage to ground: There should be battery voltage. Blown No. 7 (7.5 A) fuse in the driver's under-dash fuse/relay box Faulty driver's under-dash fuse/relay box An open in the wire 20 YEL Ignition switch ON (II) Check the voltage to ground: There should be battery voltage. Blown No. 21 (7.5 A) fuse in the driver's under-dash fuse/relay box Faulty driver's under-dash fuse/relay box An open in the wire 6 RED/WHT Ignition switch ON (II) Check for voltage to ground: There should be battery voltage. Faulty power window master switch Short to ground in the wire 8 WHT/BLU Driver's door key cylinder switch in LOCK Check for voltage to ground: There should be less than 1 V. Faulty driver's door key cylinder switch Poor ground (G601) An open in the wire Driver's door key cylinder switch in neutral Check for voltage to ground: There should be 5 V or more. Short to ground Faulty driver's door key cylinder switch Driver's door key cylinder switch in UNLOCK Check for voltage to ground: There should be 5 V or more. 21 WHT Driver's door key cylinder switch in UNLOCK Check for voltage to ground: There should be less than 1 V. Faulty driver's door key cylinder switch Poor ground (G601) An open in the wire Driver's door key cylinder switch in neutral Check for voltage to ground: There should be 5 V or more. Short to ground Faulty driver's door key cylinder switch Driver's door key cylinder switch in LOCK Check for voltage to ground: There should be 5 V or more. 4 BLU Ignition switch ON (II), and the driver's window switch moving up or down Check for voltage between the No. 4 and No. 1 terminals: There should be 0 V-about 5 V-0 V-about 5 V repeatedly (a digital voltmeter reads about 2.5 V while the window moves). Blown No. 7 (7.5 A) fuse in the driver's under-dash fuse/relay box Blown No. 27 (20 A) fuse in the driver's under-dash fuse/relay box An open in the wire (RED/WHT, BLU, ORN) Short to ground in the wire Faulty driver's window motor Faulty power window master switch 17 ORN Ignition switch ON (II), and the driver's window switch moving up or down Check for voltage between the No. 17 and No. 1 terminals: There should be 0 V-about 5 V-0 V-about 5 V repeatedly (a digital voltmeter reads about 2.5 V while the window moves).
7. Disconnect the 23P connector from the power window master switch, and make the input tests shown in «MASTER SWITCH INPUT TEST DESCRIPTION»(ref-221004-S35014985792006022200000) , at the connectors. If any test indicates a problem, find and correct the cause, then recheck the system. If all the input tests prove OK, the control unit must be faulty; replace the power window master switch, and go to step 8. MASTER SWITCH INPUT TEST DESCRIPTION (2 OF 2) Cavity Wire Test condition Test: Desired result Possible cause if result is not obtained 11 RED/YEL Connect the No. 10 and No. 11 terminals with a jumper wire, and connect the No. 23 terminal to body ground. Check for driver's window operation: The window should go down. Blown No. 27 (20 A) fuse in the driver's under-dash fuse/relay box Faulty driver's power window motor An open in the wire 23 RED/BLK Connect the No. 10 and No. 23 terminals with a jumper wire, and connect the No. 11 terminal to body ground. Check for driver's window operation: The window should go up. 18 BLU/RED Connect the No. 10 and No. 18 terminals with a jumper wire. Check for front passenger's window operation: The window should go up. Blown No. 26 (20 A) fuse in the driver's under-dash fuse/relay box Faulty front passenger's window motor Faulty front passenger's window switch Poor ground (G504) An open in the wire 9 BLU/WHT Connect the No. 10 and No. 9 terminals with a jumper wire. Check for front passenger's window operation: The window should go down. 13 BRN/WHT Connect the No. 10 and No. 13 terminals with a jumper wire. Check for left rear window operation: The window should go up. Blown No. 24 (20 A) fuse in the driver's under-dash fuse/relay box Faulty left rear window motor Faulty left rear window switch Poor ground (G602) An open in the wire 19 BRN Connect the No. 10 and No. 19 terminals with a jumper wire. Check for left rear window operation: The window should go down. 12 BLU/ORN Connect the No. 10 and No. 12 terminals with a jumper wire. Check for right rear window operation: The window should go up. Blown No. 25 (20 A) fuse in the driver's under-dash fuse/relay box Faulty right rear window motor Faulty right rear window switch Poor ground (G651) An open in the wire 14 BRN/YEL Connect the No. 10 and No. 14 terminals with a jumper wire. Check for right rear window operation: The window should go down. 16 GRN/RED Under all conditions Check for continuity between the No. 16 terminal and driver's under-dash fuse/relay box connector J terminal No. 4: There should be continuity. An open in the wire
8. Reset the power window control unit (see «RESETTING THE POWER WINDOW CONTROL UNIT»(ref-221004-S22848370902006022200000) ).

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Scheme 38

1. Remove the door panel (see «FRONT DOOR PANEL REMOVAL/INSTALLATION»(ref-220965-S31837144572006022200000) ).
2. Disconnect the 6P connector (A) from the window motor.
3. Test the motor in each direction by connecting battery power and ground according to the table (Scheme 38) When the motor stops running, disconnect one lead immediately.
4. If the motor does not run or fails to run smoothly, replace it. Pulser Test
5. Reconnect the 6P connector to the window motor.
6. Check for voltage between the terminals. There should be battery voltage between the No. 6 (+) and No. 5 (-) terminals when the ignition switch is ON (II). Connect an analog voltmeter between the No. 3 (+) and No. 5 (-) terminals, and run the window motor down or up. The voltmeter needle should move back and forth alternately (a digital voltmeter should show the average voltage between 0-5 V). Connect an analog voltmeter between the No. 2 (+) and No. 5 (-) terminals, and run the window motor at down or up. The voltmeter needle should move back and forth alternately (a digital voltmeter should show the average voltage between 0-5 V).
7. If the voltage is not as specified, do the power window master switch input test (terminals No. 4, No. 6 and No. 17) (see step 6 ).
8. If the switch test is OK, replace the power window motor.
9. Reset the power window control unit (see «RESETTING THE POWER WINDOW CONTROL UNIT»(ref-221004-S22848370902006022200000) ).

Scheme 39

Scheme 40

1. Remove the door panel (see «FRONT DOOR PANEL REMOVAL/INSTALLATION»(ref-220965-S31837144572006022200000) ).
2. Disconnect the 6P connector (A) from the window motor.
3. Test the motor by connecting battery power and ground according to the table (Scheme 40) When the motor stops running, disconnect one lead immediately.
4. If the motor does not run or fails to run smoothly, replace it.

Scheme 41

Scheme 42

1. Remove the driver's door panel (see «FRONT DOOR PANEL REMOVAL/INSTALLATION»(ref-220965-S31837144572006022200000) ).
2. Remove the screw and disconnect the 23P connector (A) and 13P connector (B) from the master switch panel (C), then remove the switch assembly from the door panel.
3. Remove the four mounting screws, then remove the master switch (A) from the switch panel (B).
4. Install in the reverse order of removal.
5. Reset the power window control unit (see «RESETTING THE POWER WINDOW CONTROL UNIT»(ref-221004-S22848370902006022200000) ).

Scheme 43

1. Remove the front passenger's door panel (see «FRONT DOOR PANEL REMOVAL/INSTALLATION»(ref-220965-S31837144572006022200000) ).
2. Remove the screw and disconnect the 10P connector (A) from the power window switch (B), then remove the switch assembly from the door panel.
3. Remove the four mounting screws, then remove the power window switch from the switch panel (C).
4. Swap the window switch with another known-good switch and test. If the original window switch is faulty; replace it.
5. Install in the reverse order of removal.

Scheme 44

1. Remove the sliding door panel (see «SLIDING DOOR PANEL REMOVAL/INSTALLATION»(ref-220965-S08414459472006022200000) ).
2. Remove the screw and disconnect the 6P connector (A) from the power window switch (B), then remove the switch assembly from the door panel.
3. Remove the two mounting screws, then remove the power window switch from the switch panel (C).
4. Swap the rear power window switch with another known-good switch and test. If the original window switch is faulty; replace it.
5. Install in the reverse order of removal.