How To Check For DTCS With The HDS
There are three methods used to check for DTCs. The recommended method is to use the Honda Diagnostic System (HDS) with the appropriate software, plugged into the data link connector (DLC).
The second method is to run the self-diagnostic function built into the climate control unit.
The third method is to use the B-CAN system diagnosis test mode A (see TROUBLESHOOTING - B-CAN SYSTEM DIAGNOSIS TEST MODE A )
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- Make sure the ignition switch is in LOCK (0).
- Connect the HDS to the DLC (A) located under the driver's side of the dashboard.
- Turn the ignition switch to ON (II).
- Make sure the HDS communicates with the vehicle and the climate control unit. If it does not, go to the DLC circuit troubleshooting (see «DLC CIRCUIT TROUBLESHOOTING»(ref-423675-S13110687632011092800000) ).
- Select HVAC/CLIMATE CONTROL in the BODY ELECTRICAL menu.
- Select DTCs in the HVAC/CLIMATE CONTROL menu.
- Check for DTCs. If any DTCs are indicated, write down the DTCs, then go to the indicated «DTC TROUBLESHOOTING»(ref-423748-S36826057232011092800000) . If no DTCs are indicated, refer to «SYMPTOM TROUBLESHOOTING»(ref-423748-S40245071582011092800000) . NOTE: After troubleshooting, clear the DTCs with the HDS. For specific operations, refer to the user's manual that came with the HDS.
Checking For DTCs
The temperature display indicates single or multiple DTCs. If no DTCs are present, the indicator remains blank.
Note. If indicator segments A, C, D, E, G, K and the AUTO indicator or the A/C ON indicator are on at the same time, there may be an open in the climate control unit ground circuit.
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| DTC (Driver's Temperature Indicator Segment, AUTO, and A/C indicator) | Detection Item |
|---|---|
| A and AUTO | An open in the in-car temperature sensor circuit (see DTC B1225 OR DTC INDICATOR A AND AUTO: AN OPEN IN THE IN-CAR TEMPERATURE SENSOR CIRCUIT ) |
| B and AUTO | A short in the in-car temperature sensor circuit (see DTC B1226 OR DTC INDICATOR B AND AUTO: A SHORT IN THE IN-CAR TEMPERATURE SENSOR CIRCUIT ) |
| C and AUTO | An open in the outside air temperature sensor circuit (see DTC B1227 OR DTC INDICATOR C AND AUTO: AN OPEN IN THE OUTSIDE AIR TEMPERATURE SENSOR CIRCUIT ) |
| D and AUTO | A short in the outside air temperature sensor circuit (see DTC B1228 OR DTC INDICATOR D AND AUTO: A SHORT IN THE OUTSIDE AIR TEMPERATURE SENSOR CIRCUIT ) |
| E and AUTO | An open in the sunlight sensor circuit (see DTC B1229 OR DTC INDICATOR E AND AUTO: AN OPEN IN THE SUNLIGHT SENSOR CIRCUIT ) |
| F and AUTO | A short in the sunlight sensor circuit (see DTC B1230 OR DTC INDICATOR F AND AUTO: A SHORT IN THE SUNLIGHT SENSOR CIRCUIT ) |
| G and AUTO | An open in the evaporator temperature sensor circuit (see DTC B1231 OR DTC INDICATOR G AND AUTO: AN OPEN IN THE EVAPORATOR TEMPERATURE SENSOR CIRCUIT ) |
| H and AUTO | A short in the evaporator temperature sensor circuit (see DTC B1232 OR DTC INDICATOR H AND AUTO: A SHORT IN THE EVAPORATOR TEMPERATURE SENSOR CIRCUIT ) |
| A and A/C ON | An open in the driver's air mix control motor circuit (see DTC B1233 OR DTC INDICATOR A AND A/C ON: AN OPEN IN THE DRIVER'S AIR MIX CONTROL MOTOR CIRCUIT ) |
| B and A/C ON | A short in the driver's air mix control motor circuit (see DTC B1234 OR DTC INDICATOR B AND A/C ON: A SHORT IN THE DRIVER'S AIR MIX CONTROL MOTOR CIRCUIT ) |
| C and A/C ON | A problem in the driver's air mix control linkage, door, or motor circuit (see DTC B1235 OR DTC INDICATOR C AND A/C ON: A PROBLEM IN THE DRIVER'S AIR MIX CONTROL LINKAGE, DOOR, OR MOTOR CIRCUIT ) |
| D and A/C ON | An open in the passenger's air mix control motor circuit (see DTC B1236 OR DTC INDICATOR D AND A/C ON: AN OPEN IN THE PASSENGER'S AIR MIX CONTROL MOTOR CIRCUIT ) |
| E and A/C ON | A short in the passenger's air mix control motor circuit (see DTC B1237 OR DTC INDICATOR E AND A/C ON: A SHORT IN THE PASSENGER'S AIR MIX CONTROL MOTOR CIRCUIT ) |
| F and A/C ON | A problem in the passenger's air mix control linkage, door, or motor circuit (see DTC B1238 OR DTC INDICATOR F AND A/C ON: A PROBLEM IN THE PASSENGER'S AIR MIX CONTROL LINKAGE, DOOR, OR MOTOR CIRCUIT ) |
| G and A/C ON | An open in the mode control motor circuit (see DTC B121A OR DTC INDICATOR G AND A/C ON: AN OPEN IN THE MODE CONTROL MOTOR CIRCUIT ) |
| H and A/C ON | A short in the mode control motor circuit (see DTC B121B OR DTC INDICATOR H AND A/C ON: A SHORT IN THE MODE CONTROL MOTOR CIRCUIT ) |
| J and A/C ON | A problem in the mode control linkage, doors, or motor circuit (see DTC B1240 OR INDICATOR J AND A/C ON: A PROBLEM IN THE MODE CONTROL LINKAGE, DOORS, OR MOTOR CIRCUIT ) |
| K and A/C ON | An open in the recirculation control motor circuit (see DTC B2986 OR DTC INDICATOR K AND A/C ON: AN OPEN IN THE RECIRCULATION CONTROL MOTOR CIRCUIT ) |
| L and A/C ON | A short in the recirculation control motor circuit (see DTC B1220 OR DTC INDICATOR L AND A/C ON: A SHORT IN THE RECIRCULATION CONTROL MOTOR CIRCUIT ) |
| M and A/C ON | A problem in the recirculation control linkage, door, or motor circuit (see DTC B2983 OR DTC INDICATOR M AND A/C ON: A PROBLEM IN THE RECIRCULATION CONTROL LINKAGE, DOOR, OR MOTOR CIRCUIT ) |
| N and A/C ON | A problem in the blower motor circuit (see DTC B1241 OR DTC INDICATOR IM AND A/C ON: A PROBLEM IN THE BLOWER MOTOR CIRCUIT ) |
| A | Climate control unit internal error (see DTC TROUBLESHOOTING ) |
| B | Output shaft (countershaft) speed sensor signal error. Check for DTCs in the A/T system and go to the indicated DTCS TROUBLESHOOTING . If no DTCs are found, replace the climate control unit; with navigation system (see WITH NAVIGATION SYSTEM ), without navigation system (see WITHOUT NAVIGATION SYSTEM ) |
| C | ECT sensor signal error. Check for DTCs in the PGM-FI system and go to the indicated DTCS TROUBLESHOOTING . If no DTCs are found, replace the climate control unit; with navigation system (see WITH NAVIGATION SYSTEM ), without navigation system (see WITHOUT NAVIGATION SYSTEM ) |
| D | Communication bus line error (bus-off) (see DTC U1280: COMMUNICATION BUS LINE ERROR (BUS-OFF) ) |
DTC CHART
Displaying Sensor Inputs At The Climate Control Unit
The climate control unit has a mode that displays sensor inputs it receives. This mode shows you what the climate control unit is receiving from each of the sensors, one at a time, and it can help you determine if a sensor is faulty.
Check These Items Before Using The Sensor Input Display Mode
- Turn the ignition switch to ON (II), and check the recirculation door function; press the recirculation button to switch from FRESH to RECIRC. The air volume and sound should change slightly.
- Set the driver's climate control switch to the desired test temperature: Press AUTO button on, the LED turns on. '08-09 models; Press DUAL button off, the LED turns off. '10-12 models; Press SYNC button off, the LED turns off. When selecting the test temperature, note these items: "Lo" temperature setting will default to MAX COOL, VENT, and RECIRC. "Hi" temperature setting will default to MAX HOT and FRESH. 58 through 86°F (16 through 28°C) settings will use the automatic climate control logic.
- Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
To Run The Sensor Input Display Mode, Follow These Steps
- Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
- Press and hold both the AUTO and RECIRCULATION CONTROL buttons, then start the engine.
- After the engine starts, release both buttons. The audio-HVAC display will flash the sensor number and then the value for that sensor. Record the value displayed.
- To advance to the next sensor, press the REAR WINDOW DEFOGGER/MIRROR DEFOGGER button. NOTE: The sensor values will be displayed in degrees Celsius (°C) or an alphanumeric code. Use the chart to convert the value to degrees Fahrenheit (°F). If the sensor value displays "Er" this indicates there is an open or short in the circuit or sensor. Check for DTCs using the HDS, or use the climate control self-diagnostic function. If necessary, compare the sensor input display to a known-good vehicle under the same test conditions. If the sensor is out of the normal range, refer to the appropriate sensor test or substitute a known-good sensor, and recheck. SENSOR VALUES DISPLAY CHART Sensor Item Displayed Value 1 Mode Positioning % 2 In-car Temperature °C 3 Outside Air Temperature °C 4 Solar Radiation Sensor Value: Dark = 00, Flashlight = 04, Cloudy = 10, Sunny = 65 10kcal/m 2 .h 5 Evaporator Outlet Air Temperature °C 6 Driver's Air Mix Opening (Low value indicates cooler air distribution, higher value indicates warmer air distribution) % of opening 7 Passenger's Air Mix Opening (Low value indicates cooler air distribution, higher value indicates warmer air distribution) % of opening 8 Recirculation Control Opening % of opening 9 Vehicle Speed (Vehicle must be driven to display speed) km/h 10 km/h A Engine Coolant Temperature °C b Vent Temperature Air Out (TAO) °C CELSIUS TO FAHRENHEIT CONVERSION CHART °C °F °C °F °C °F °C °F °C °F 0 32 10 50 20 68 30 86 40 104 1 34 11 52 21 70 31 88 41 106 2 36 12 54 22 72 32 90 42 108 3 37 13 55 23 73 33 91 43 109 4 39 14 57 24 75 34 93 44 111 5 41 15 59 25 77 35 95 45 113 6 43 16 61 26 79 36 97 46 115 7 45 17 63 27 81 37 99 47 117 8 46 18 64 28 82 38 100 48 118 9 48 19 66 29 84 39 102 49 120 CELSIUS TO FAHRENHEIT CONVERSION CHART °C °F °C °F °C °F °C °F °C °F 50 122 60 140 70 158 80 176 90 194 51 124 61 142 71 160 81 178 91 196 52 126 62 144 72 162 82 180 92 198 53 127 63 145 73 163 83 181 93 199 54 128 64 147 74 165 84 183 94 201 55 131 65 149 75 167 85 185 95 203 56 133 66 151 76 169 86 187 96 205 57 135 67 152 77 170 87 188 97 207 58 136 68 154 78 172 88 190 98 208 59 139 69 158 79 174 89 192 99 210 ALPHANUMERIC CONVERSION CHART Display Reading (Alphanumeric) °C °F % A1 thru A9 -1 thru -9 30 thru 16 -1 thru -9 B0 thru B9 -10 thru -19 14 thru -2 -10 thru -19 CO thru C9 -20 thru -29 -4 thru -20 -20 thru -29 DO thru D9 -30 thru -39 -22 thru -38 -30 thru -39 E0 thru E9 -40 thru -49 -40 thru -56 -40 thru -49 F0 thru F9 -50 thru -59 -58 thru -74 + 100 thru +109 ALPHANUMERIC CONVERSION CHART (MODE POSITIONING) Display Reading (Alphanumeric) Mode Position 0 VENT 18 HEAT/VENT-1 33 HEAT/VENT-2 50 HEAT 66 HEAT/DEF-1 80 HEAT/DEF-2 F0 DEF
- To cancel the sensor input display mode, press the AUTO button or turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
Checking The DTCs by HDS
| DTC | Detection Item or Symptom | ECU | DTC Type |
|---|---|---|---|
| U1280 DTC U1280: COMMUNICATION BUS LINE ERROR (BUS-OFF) | Communication bus line error (bus-off) | Climate control unit | Loss of communication |
| U0155 | Lost communication with gauge control module (climate control unit) | Climate control unit | Loss of communication |
| B121A | An open in the mode control motor circuit | Climate control unit | Signal error |
| B121B | A short in the mode control motor circuit | Climate control unit | Signal error |
| B1220 | A short in the recirculation control motor circuit | Climate control unit | Signal error |
| B1225 | An open in the in-car temperature sensor circuit | Climate control unit | Signal error |
| B1226 | A short in the in-car temperature sensor circuit | Climate control unit | Signal error |
| B1227 | An open in the outside air temperature sensor circuit | Climate control unit | Signal error |
| B1228 | A short in the outside air temperature sensor circuit | Climate control unit | Signal error |
| B1229 | An open in the sunlight sensor circuit | Climate control unit | Signal error |
| B1230 | A short in the sunlight sensor circuit | Climate control unit | Signal error |
| B1231 | An open in the evaporator temperature sensor circuit | Climate control unit | Signal error |
| B1232 | A short in the evaporator temperature sensor circuit | Climate control unit | Signal error |
| B1233 | An open in the driver's air mix control motor circuit | Climate control unit | Signal error |
| B1234 | A short in the driver's air mix control motor circuit | Climate control unit | Signal error |
| B1235 | A problem in the driver's air mix control linkage, door, or motor circuit | Climate control unit | Signal error |
| B1236 | An open in the passenger's air mix control motor circuit | Climate control unit | Signal error |
| B1237 | A short in the passenger's air mix control motor circuit | Climate control unit | Signal error |
| B1238 | A problem in the passenger's air mix control linkage, door, or motor circuit | Climate control unit | Signal error |
| B1240 (1) | A problem in the mode control linkage, door, or motor circuit | Climate control unit | Signal error |
| B1241 | A problem in the blower motor circuit | Climate control unit | Signal error |
| B2983 | A problem in the recirculation control linkage, door, or motor circuit | Climate control unit | Signal error |
| B2986 | An open in the recirculation control motor circuit | Climate control unit | Signal error |
| (1) '10-12 models | |||
| (1) | '10-12 models |
DTC TROUBLESHOOTING CHART
A/C Pressure Sensor
The A/C pressure sensor converts A/C pressure into electrical signals to the ECM/PCM.
| A/C System Pressure | Sensor Output Voltage (V out) | System Operation |
|---|---|---|
| Abnormally low pressure: Below 196 kPa (2.0 kgf/cm 2 , 28 psi) | Below 0.685 V | The ECM/PCM disengages the A/C compressor clutch. The radiator and A/C condenser fans operate based on engine coolant temperature exceeds 206 °F (97 °C). |
| Normal operating pressure: Above 196 kPa (2.0 kgf/cm 2 , 28 psi) Below 1, 470 kPa (15.0 kgf/cm 2 , 213 psi) | 0.686 V to 1.944 V | The ECM/PCM cycles the A/C compressor clutch based on cooling demand. The radiator and A/C condenser fans operate at low speed unless the engine coolant temperature exceeds 206°F (97°C) |
| High operating pressure: Above 1, 470 kPa (15.0 kgf/cm 2 , 213 psi) Below 3, 138 kPa (32 kgf/cm 2 , 455 psi) | 1.945 V to 4.575 V | The ECM/PCM cycles the A/C compressor clutch based on cooling demand. The radiator and A/C condenser fans operate at high speed. |
| Abnormally high pressure: More than 3, 138 kPa (32 kgf/cm 2 , 455 psi) | Above 4.575 V | The ECM/PCM disengages the A/C compressor clutch. The radiator and A/C condenser fans operate based on engine coolant temperature. |
VOLTAGE SPECIFICATIONS
The response of the A/C pressure sensor is shown in the graph.
Note. When the refrigerant is below 196 kPa (2.0 kgf/cm 2 , 28 psi) or above 3, 138 kPa (32 kgf/cm 2 , 455 psi), the PCM turns the A/C compressor clutch relay off to protect the A/C compressor. When the refrigerant pressure is above 1, 470 kPa (15.0 kgf/cm 2 , 213 psi), the PCM switches the radiator and A/C condenser fans to high speed.
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i-Dual Zone Climate Control System
This system automatically controls the temperature and the vent mode of the air direction to the driver and passenger's side depending on the angle of the sun and the direction of the vehicle. It calculates information such as date, time, longitude, and latitude from the navigation system, as well as the radiant strength of the sun from the sunlight sensor, to determine the appropriate mode position and temperature to be directed to each side.
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In the event that the navigation system malfunctions, or when driving in areas where the navigation cannot determine the vehicle position {non-coverage areas, tunnels, etc.), the climate control system will operate the same as a vehicle without navigation system.
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| Cavity | Wire color | Terminal name | Description | Signal |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | LT GRN | M-HOTAS | Drives passenger's air mix control motor HOT side | With ignition switch ON (II) and passenger's air mix control motor moving to HOT: battery voltage |
| 2 | BRN (1) WHT (2) | M-COOL AS | Drives passenger's air mix control motor COOL side | With ignition switch ON (II) and passenger's air mix control motor moving to COOL: battery voltage |
| 3 | RED (1) PUR (2) | M-FRS | Drives recirculation control motor FRESH side | With ignition switch ON (II) and recirculation control motor moving to FRESH: battery voltage |
| 4 | LT BLU | M-COOL DR | Drives driver's air mix control motor COOL side | With ignition switch ON (II) and driver's air mix control motor moving to COOL: battery voltage |
| 5 | PUR (1) ORN (2) | M-REC | Drives recirculation control motor RECIRCULATE side | With ignition switch ON (II) and recirculation control motor moving to RECIRCU: battery voltage |
| 6 | PNK | M-HOTDR | Drives driver's air mix control motor HOT side | With ignition switch ON (II) and driver's air mix control motor moving to HOT: battery voltage |
| 7 | YEL (1) WHT (2) | M-VENT | Outputs mode control motor VENT side | With ignition switch ON (II) and mode control motor moving to VENT: battery voltage |
| 8 | GRY (1) GRN (2) | M-DEF | Outputs mode control motor DEF side | With ignition switch ON (II) and mode control motor moving to DEF: battery voltage |
| 9 | RED (1) LT GRN (2) | IG2 | IG2 power source | With ignition switch ON (II): battery voltage |
| 11 | RED (1) LT GRN (2) | MDD-P | Outputs mode control motor potentiometer signal | With ignition switch ON (II): about 0.5-4.5V (depending on mode control motor position) |
| 12 | BLU (1) PNK (2) | RFD-P | Outputs recirculation control motor potentiometer signal | With ignition switch ON (II): about 0.1-4.0V (depending on mode control motor position) |
| 13 | LT BLIP YEL (2) | AMD-P As | Outputs passenger's air mix control motor potentiometer signal | With ignition switch ON (II): about 1.5-4.5 V (depending on passenger's air mix control motor position) |
| 14 | GRY | AMD-P DR | Outputs driver's air mix control motor potentiometer signal | With ignition switch ON (II): about 0.5-4.5 V (depending on driver's air mix control motor position) |
| 16 (2) | RED | ILL | Detects illumination control signal | With illumination switch ON: changed voltage (depending on dashlight brightness controller) |
| 18 (2) | GRY | SMALL | Inputs voltage for illumination | With combination light switch ON: battery voltage |
| 19 | LT BLU (1) RED (2) | DISP-CLK | Communication signal from audio-HVAC subdisplay unit (1) or audio-HVAC display unit (2) | With ignition switch ON (II): pulses |
| 20 | BLU (1) PUR (2) | DISP-SO | Communication signal to audio-HVAC subdisplay unit (1) or audio-HVAC display unit (2) | With ignition switch ON (II): pulses |
| 21 | PUR (1) LT BLU (2) | ACS | Outputs A/C on/off signal | With ignition switch ON (II), normal A/C pressure, and A/C switch ON: less than 0.2 V With ignition switch ON (II), normal A/C pressure, and A/C switch OFF: battery voltage |
| 23 | BRN | Teva | Detects evaporator temperature sensor signal | With ignition switch ON (II): about 1.0-4.0 V (depending on evaporator temperature) |
| 24 | LT GRN (1) BLU (2) | Tarn | Detects outside air temperature sensor signal | With ignition switch ON (II): about 1.0-4.0 V (depending on outside air temperature) |
| 25 | YEL (1) PUR (2) | Tsun | Detects sunlight sensor signal | With ignition switch ON (II) and no sunlight or sensor covered up: 3.56 V With ignition switch ON (II) and sensor in direct sunlight: 3.56 V or less |
| 26 | BLK (1) WHT (2) | Tr | Detects in-car temperature sensor signal | With ignition switch ON (II): about 1.0-4.0 V (depending on in-car temperature) |
| 28 (1) | GRN | BUS-DATA | Communication signal to driver's climate control switch | With ignition switch ON (II): pulses |
| (1) With navigation system (2) Without navigation system | ||||
| (1) | With navigation system |
| (2) | Without navigation system |
TERMINAL DESCRIPTION CHART
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| Cavity | Wire color | Terminal name | Description | Signal |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | WHT (1) PNK (2) | B-CAN H | B-CAN communication signal | With ignition switch ON (II): pulses |
| 2 | RED (1) BLU (2) | B-CAN L | B-CAN communication signal | With ignition switch ON (II): pulses |
| 3 | BLK | GND | Ground for climate control unit (G401) | Less than 0.5 V at all times |
| 5 | PUR (1) YEL (2) | BLW-G | Outputs power transistor gate voltage | With ignition switch ON (II) and fan control button OFF: less than 0.2 V With ignition switch ON (II) and fan control button ON: about 4.0 V-battery voltage (depending on blower motor control) |
| 6 | BLU | BLW-V | Feedback signal of power transistor drain voltage | With ignition switch ON (II): about 0 V-battery voltage (depending on blower motor speed) |
| 7 (1) | BRN | AC-SO | Communication signal from navigation unit | With ignition switch ON (II): pulses |
| 8 (1) | LT GRN | AC-SI | Communication signal to navigation unit | With ignition switch ON (II): pulses |
| 9 (1) | RED | AC-CLK | Communication signal from navigation unit | With ignition switch ON (II): pulses |
| 10 | WHT (1) RED (2) | SENS-COM | Sensor ground | Less than 0.2 V at all times |
| 12 | BLK | S5V | Outputs sensor 5 V | With ignition switch ON (II): about 5.0 V |
| (1) With navigation system (2) Without navigation system | ||||
| (1) | With navigation system |
| (2) | Without navigation system |
TERMINAL DESCRIPTION CHART